DIY elsewhere, now here

I've been a member of PFM since 2007. I am 13mh13 there/

I created the threads below that were almost immediately censored  / deleted by PFM mods.

I had saved HTML files to my computer for most content. I was also able to retrieve all other delted content from Google's cached inventory. 

And original screen captures for most of the first thread are included.

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DIY elsewhere, now here

Discussion in 'd.i.y.' started by 13mh13, Yesterday at 3:09 PM.
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Because of circumstances beyond my control, other forums -- including the king-of-the-hill DIYAudio.com -- have decided my services are no longer required.
For example, I went to update this active thread I created at DIYA, yesterday, and was instead greeted with:
"You've been banned form DIYAudio.com"
You can see my activity and decide for yourself whether this content represents and existential threat to the DIYA forum, or other similar forums.

I think it may, because of:

an unintentional economic challenge/threat to the donor-paid members who offer kits for sale
personal grudges
intellectual jealousy
etc. The DIYA community is comprised of over 500k members now -- Covid-19 lockdowns brought much extra traffic to forums and the DIY community, in all hobby fields. As $$ comes in thru donations, the pure "DIY" aspect (Vero boards, proto boards, breadboards, un-stuffed PCBs) becomes unsustainable -- it is not as "profitable" as pre-built PCB kits.

Cutting to the chase ... because I've been here at PFM since 2007, this is where I'll post my "DIY audio" content, henceforth ... including continuation of the active DIYA thread noted earlier.


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sq225917 Bit of this, bit of that


Probably best best to trim the intro, it's against the rules here


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sq225917 said:
Probably best best to trim the intro, it's against the rules here
Click to expand... Some pretext and background info needed to introduced -- stylistically , as a journal paper "Abstract".
The mods can edit as needed. It's mature of mods and the forum community to display common sense. Censorship is nuanced operation. DIYA and large forums and SM platforms can get away with it because they have different priorities.
In any case, I hope the PFM forum engine keeps a tracking record, in case I forgot to save my posted content locally.

13mh13, Yesterday at 7:53 PM Edit Delete Report
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AudioAl pfm Member

Don't take things to seriously , If you get hounded just ignore it.
I look forward to you contributions on PF
Have fun. No name man ? I assume you are a man ? a name would be good , Cheers.


AudioAl, Yesterday at 7:55 PM Report
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Mynamemynaim 38yrs a Naim owner


Welcome (back) @13mh13
PFM is the home of those of us who have been banned from other forums!

My case....the Naim forum (twice !)....and like yourself...for no reason

PFM has declined a bit recently in the diy project area recently....so your arrival is MOST welcome

Ps @sq225917 was joking about your intro...so please don't loose your sense of humour!

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AudioAl said:
Don't take things to seriously , If you get hounded just ignore it.
I look forward to you contributions on PF
Have fun. No name man ? I assume you are a man ? a name would be good , Cheers.
Click to expand... Look forwards and backwards, too: I've been here at PFM since 2007.

About your "man" question ... that's what the DIYA "police" state banned me for (screen shot of my Firefox DIYA log-in page ).
How does a "hollow" man fit inside a sock?
The Ghost in the Machine was The Police's 2nd best album ... after Synchronicity.



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The reason for the ban at "The Other Place" (diya) is unclear .
I was in the middle of private messaging with one of the Ex Mods (Jean-Paul) -- who is not responsible for the ban!!
Jean-Paul and I were arranging a private sale of digital IC chips in his possession.
See: https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...onversion-and-up-sampling.397868/post-7345475
... and ...
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...onversion-and-up-sampling.397868/post-7345509
I have no way of contacting him now, and feel bad.
If anyone reading this message is a member at the Other Place, I request a small favor: please PM Jean-Paul, noting "philipsmarantz" is still interested in his digital chips, but can no longer communicate with him because he was banned; and then PM me here at PFM. I can give you my private email that you can give to Jean-Paul. A lot of back and forth, I know! But the digital chips should make for some interesting projects that I can post on here at PFM.


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nota bene: DIY elsewhere, now here

Discussion in 'd.i.y.' started by 13mh13, Yesterday at 7:54 PM.

    13mh13
    13mh13 pfm Member

        nota bene
        NB:
        It's unfortunate that PFM has decided to delete my entire recent thread "DIY elsewhere, now here".
        I was not even sent an email about its deletion; which is counterproductive to one's confidence if an agenda to forum integrity in important to the topical community it is representing.
        Moderation is a nuanced task. Be wise.
         

    13mh13, Yesterday at 7:54 PM


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    martin clark
    martin clark pinko bodger

        Equally, its v clear in the FAQ and posting rules here, that no discussion of arguments/ moderation issues at other forums/ importing of arguments elsewhere is acceptable here.

        It's not you.

        Its the way this has in the past wasted immense amounts of time of the Moderators (who take no end of shite for the light touch they exert, and are all ... unpaid volunteers!)

        And also the reputational damage inflicted all round, especially when you realise that fundamentally this is a privately -owned, family-friendly record shop - that just happens to have a side-channel where us idiots talk nonsense, for free. Tony's house, Tony's (sensible) rules.

        It is not about you.

        But it is the Rules. Quite simple.

        ATB

        M
        (not a mod - just another bloke who hangs around here)
         

    martin clark, Yesterday at 8:37 PM


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    lordsummit
    lordsummit Moderator

        I didn’t delete your thread. However if you brought an argument from a forum outside of pfm into pfm, it would have been deleted because the AUP states quite clearly:


        Tony L said: ↑

            pfm sits harmoniously in the audio community along with many other audio and music forums. It is not acceptable to bring personal argument, conflict or vendetta from another place onto this forum, nor is it acceptable to post links to external websites hosting such content.
            Click to expand...

        Sadly the mod team also has to have gainful employment. We often don’t have time to contact everyone when we make a decision.

        Hope this helps
        Richard
         

    lordsummit, Yesterday at 9:30 PM


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    Tony L
    Tony L Administrator

        nota bene
        NB:
        I don’t care if someone has been banned from another forum. Not my business. Your problem. Keep it off my website!

        PS All covered in the AUP you agreed when joining, and yes, I deleted the thread!
         

    Tony L, Yesterday at 9:33 PM


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  13mh13
    13mh13 pfm Member

        Tony L said: ↑

            I deleted the thread!
            Click to expand...

        Do you have a copy of what you deleted; PM me in any case.It takes considerable time and effort to compose content for posts.

        NB: Information can't simply be "black holed".
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        I understand some of the nuts and bolts of forum TOSmanship.
        As I noted earlier (and in the deleted thread) , moderation and admining a nuanced game. I did not realize Other Places had so much power over PFM.
        So be it.
        NB: My plan -- as stated in deleted thread -- was to move over much of my content from elsewhere** to PFM. However, in light of the thread deletion, I'll have to hold back a bit on sharing content.
        Moderation is a nuanced business ... maybe a thankless job ... and you'll lose some of my business ... but at least topics like this keep things interesting. And that -- keeping things interesting -- is how to improve and sustain your forum.

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        ** Quite a bit of high quality content, IMHO. All in the style and fidelity of my "philipsmarantz" content from the Other Place. And there have been >50 other places in the past 14-15 years. But only a small percent of those are related to audio.
         

    13mh13, 27 minutes ago

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